https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF-3OMTFL2U&t=301s
Yt guy does 1e a lot. Australian? Comments about CE vs. LE.
I forgot goblins and orcs were LE in the old Monster Manual. Why did they change that? Maybe because wanted higher damage. Or did the LOTR movie do it for 3e or something (nope, years don’t match up)? Or maybe 2e did it? Nope, still LE. https://adnd2e.fandom.com/wiki/Orc_(Creature)
So I guess it was 3e for probably tactical reasons and variety reasons. As in
Goblins CE
Kobolds LE
Hobgoblins LE
Orcs CE
But gnolls and ogres stayed CE the whole time, right? In which case… no clue. Maybe they were always pretty chaotic anyway.
Oh, forgot forgot, in OD&D, chaotic mostly. B/X was chaotic eh?
In the beginning, Orcs were either Chaotic or Neutral. (Men and Magic, page 9, 1974). (In contrast, Goblins were only Chaotic, Men could be Lawful, Neutral, or Chaotic).
This was before the two-axis model, which was first seen in Strategic Review #6 (page 4, Feb 1976), and that placed Orcs in Chaotic Evil on the grid. The Holmes 1977 Basic D&D had them on the grid there as well.
They were listed as Lawful Evil in AD&D 1e, and remained that way for AD&D 2e.
In B/X and BECMI (Molday/Mentzer/Et al). which were printed after AD&D 1e was published, orcs are listed as Chaotic (in the red Basic box, DM Guide, page 35).
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