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Sunday, June 15, 2025

Dnd Against the Giants again - Comparing 1e and 5e as I find it.

 Btw, chexkmout all these cool alt,hill,giant types. And how did I get a copy of a ststblock with the cool “crushing leap” where the hill giant falls on you prone, and dc17 to escape..acts like a grapple, big dmg.  My version did 6d6+8 or something , but the version on Emptyhexes does 5d10+6, via the HILL GIANT STORKOKK. https://www.emptyhexes.com/monster-mondays/hill-giants

Maybe try alt stone giants here, https://www.emptyhexes.com/monster-mondays/stone-giants

Btw, GREAT writeups https://dungeonofsigns.blogspot.com/2015/12/ogrestrolls-giants-i-actually-like-5e.html

And https://dungeonofsigns.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-oldest-of-old-school-part-iii-g1.html

And cartoon walkthru 

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Btw, i think it leads into Drow and the 3 Underdark modules.

https://nerdsonearth.com/2022/11/against-the-giants-one-of-the-absolute-all-time-best-dd-adventures/

As I look at both the 1e and 5e (in tales of the yawning portal) versions, I will make notes on changes that catch my eye. I'll be running it as close to 1e as possible, but with 5e stats, etc. so let's see how this goes. 

The other first thing to determine is where does the kid start? He's got four 10th level (11th?) chars in 5e after beating Strahd. 

TRIVIA: The word Jarl (ruler of area but under a king, etc.) is related to the English word Earl. 

LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS for 1e: 

G3 FIREGIANT AREA: A party of 3 or 4 highly experienced characters of 9th or higher level can expect a reasonable chance if they use theirknowledge and cunning to best advantage. No character below 6th level should adventure in the Hall of the Fire Giant King Characters under 9th level should be accompanied by a numberofhigher level characters. The optimum mix depends upon the class of the characters involved. A party of 3 might be as well off as three or four times their number under certain circumstances. This writer still believes that a mixed group with clerics, fighters, magic-users, and thieves - with a dwarf, an elf, and perhaps a halfling or gnome and a ha/f-e/f - will be the most successful overall if their average level is 9th and there are 8 to 10 in the party. Of course, this assumes that each member will be armed with several magic items usefulagainstgiants and fire

DIFFERENCES:

  • In 5e, pg.185, the two white dragons near the end of the frost giant area are both young. In 1e, one of them is Ancient. As usual, 5e expects more fighting so/plus makes them less deadly. 

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